A bill making its way through the state Legislature is bringing the debate over states rights and federal land front and center.

According to the Congressional Research Office, nearly 40 percent of Arizona’s land is owned by the federal government. And many conservatives think that’s a land grab.

Tucson Republican Mark Finchem has introduced a bill that would direct the attorney general to consider joining a case out of Utah that challenges the federal government for public lands in the state.

Our next guest joins us via Skype to talk more about this bill. Ilya Shapiro is a Senior Fellow in Constitutional Studies at the Libertarian Cato Institute.